After being placed as 50/1 title outsiders and relegations favourites last season Brentford proved that they don't always get it right and as a marker for next season we checked out the odds being given by Brentford bookmaker's beesbet.co.uk for 05/06.
Quoted at 20/1 the Bees are tipped for a mid table finish by the pundits level with promoted Yeovil and Bournmouth who just missed out on the playoffs this season themselves.
Obviously the Summer is a long period of time and by then many transfers will be made and odds will be changing but at the moment relegated Nottingham Forest are placed as 9/2 favourites for the title.
Last season's 3rd placed side and semifinal losers Tranmere are 2nd favourites 13/2 and the usually solid Bristol City are 9/1 shots.
Finalist Hartlepool are quoted are 10/1 followed by Championship relegatees Walsall and Gillingham are equal at 12/1.
Perenial favourites for relegation are Southend and Chesterfield who both lie at 50/1 followed by Scunthorpe 40/1 and Colchester, Swansea and Port Vale who come in at 33/1.